A Table in the Corner

S2-38. Pizza Sessions 02 - Ferdinando's

Russel Wasserfall Media Season 2 Episode 38

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Born in San Pellegrino Terme and arriving in Cape Town with his South African partner in 2011, Diego Milesi talks about building Ferdinando’s from a tiny pop-up operation in the Cape Quarter into a loud, chaotic, deeply loved community institution in Observatory.

This conversation goes far beyond toppings and dough. We get into the roots of Neapolitan pizza, the obsession with fermentation and hydration, the difference between traditional and contemporary Napoli styles, and why Diego still believes pizza is fundamentally poor people’s food: something made to bring people together rather than impress them.

We also talk about the culture around Ferdinando’s itself. The music, the cocktails, the packed tables, the sense of belonging and the restaurant’s long-running association with Pasta Kitchen, a community project legacy of Diego’s late partner Kimon, which feeds and connects with vulnerable people living on the streets around Observatory.

Along the way there are debates about banana on pizza, artisanal mozzarella, South African ingredients, Italian food purism and why Diego believes the atmosphere around a pizza can matter as much as the pizza itself.

Pizza Sessions is sponsored by Banhoek Chilli Oil and will also be launching as a video series on the A Table in the Corner YouTube channel.


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  • Title music: 'In Time' by Olexy via Pixabay